Should I drop ele for ritualist? - Guild Wars Forums

Backfat · Oct 23, 2010, 03:57 AM // 03:57

Sorry guys for another one of my noobish threads but I looked and can't figure this answer out. I'm new to the game and don't really know much about it yet.

I watched a few videos of the ritualist spirit spammer build and like it alot. More than what I do now on my ele anyway. I was wondering if I would have to reroll to make the most out of that build, or could I accomplish everything with a ritualist as a secondary?

http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:Rt/any_Spirit_Spammer

gremlin · Oct 23, 2010, 04:25 AM // 04:25

The Spirit spam build is a pretty easy way to play the pve part of the game some say too easy.

Up to you if you want to drop the Ele and take the Rit but be careful about doing so for one build.
Some time in the future they may well alter some of the spirits and reduce its effectiveness.
Signet of Spirits seems to be the skill most in danger as you get 3 spirits for no energy cost.

If you like other things about the rit and it suits you style of play go for it.

Ele has a lot going for it with its great attacking and defensive skills and large energy pool.
If you just want to spirit spam then yes you can take rit as a secondary class and run a very effective spirit spam build that way.

In any case you have more than one character slot so you can always run both.

Skye Marin · Oct 23, 2010, 04:26 AM // 04:26

I find that an Ele is best suited for the AP PvE skill build, good for discord heroes:

Glyph of Immolation
Assassin's Promise
"You Move Like a Dwarf!"
Ebon Vanguard Assassin Support
"Finish Him!"
Signet of Deadly Corruption
Glowing Gaze
Meteor

Every team can use a SoS Ritualist. It's up to you if you think the extra damage from your PvE skills outweighs the ability for all your spirits to be balled up and teleported next to you for the next mob.

Star_Jewel · Oct 23, 2010, 04:28 AM // 04:28

Why would you want to reroll? Are you out of character slots?

There's no doubt that a Rit primary will always be the better spirit-spammer, because, with runes, they can have up to 16 in a given attribute -- their spirits will be higher level and sturdier.

That said, some other professions can be pretty decent spirit spammers. I run an SoS spam build on my ranger for farming purposes, I just have to carry Armor of Unfeeling and Spiritleech Aura to make up for my flimsier spirits (though I admit I may be making matters worse for myself with Spiritleech Aura due to the shocking attribute spread). I have heard of Eles running spirits, too, thanks to their high energy pool. Just be mindful of your insignias, as you won't get to use Shamans and something like Blesseds won't help you much, either, since you won't be enchanting yourself as you would with a standard ele build.

There's certainly no harm in getting the skills on your Elementalist and trying it out. If it works for you, great. If you like it but get frustrated by weak spirits, you can then roll a Rit with certainty. If you find it boring (some do), you haven't really lost much.

Backfat · Oct 23, 2010, 04:43 AM // 04:43

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Originally Posted by Star_Jewel

Why would you want to reroll? Are you out of character slots?

There's no doubt that a Rit primary will always be the better spirit-spammer, because, with runes, they can have up to 16 in a given attribute -- their spirits will be higher level and sturdier.

That said, some other professions can be pretty decent spirit spammers. I run an SoS spam build on my ranger for farming purposes, I just have to carry Armor of Unfeeling and Spiritleech Aura to make up for my flimsier spirits (though I admit I may be making matters worse for myself with Spiritleech Aura due to the shocking attribute spread). I have heard of Eles running spirits, too, thanks to their high energy pool. Just be mindful of your insignias, as you won't get to use Shamans and something like Blesseds won't help you much, either, since you won't be enchanting yourself as you would with a standard ele build.

There's certainly no harm in getting the skills on your Elementalist and trying it out. If it works for you, great. If you like it but get frustrated by weak spirits, you can then roll a Rit with certainty. If you find it boring (some do), you haven't really lost much.

It seems like I put a lot of time into the ele, even though it was only 2 weeks lol. I kind of wanted to progress through to the end instead of just stopping and repeating all the same quests/missions over but oh well.

Like I said, I'm a noob, I don't really know what I'm doing. I'm just trying to find the most efficient/safest profession to fill my HoM, and be relatively self sufficient.

Grav · Oct 23, 2010, 05:46 AM // 05:46

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Originally Posted by Backfat

It seems like I put a lot of time into the ele, even though it was only 2 weeks lol. I kind of wanted to progress through to the end instead of just stopping and repeating all the same quests/missions over but oh well.

Like I said, I'm a noob, I don't really know what I'm doing. I'm just trying to find the most efficient/safest profession to fill my HoM, and be relatively self sufficient.

Since the HoM achievements are account-wide, don't feel that you have to do everything on one character. You can do some things on one, others on another, etc.

If you own multiple campaigns, try starting another character in a different campaign. The beginning of each story (i.e. before you can switch between continents) is quite different.

Iuris · Oct 23, 2010, 09:07 AM // 09:07

I advise against. It'll be faster to learn how to play the elementalist right. Also, you can simply make one of your heroes an SoS spammer.

Kojima · Oct 23, 2010, 09:58 AM // 09:58

Why re-make? Just leave your ele aside while you bring up your ritualist. Ritualists are from Factions and they level fast in that one. I was able to bring mine up to level 20 before she left tutorial land.

*Darcy* · Oct 23, 2010, 10:40 AM // 10:40

Just remember that gaining the skills for the rit won't be any easier than getting them for the ele. Other than that, create a rit and have fun. You might discover you like the profession better than the ele. We keep telling people that if you plan on making a profession your main character for titles, etc., then you better enjoy playing that profession.

Try out all of them until you find the one that fits your play style. But that doesn't restrict you to only one profession. I have one of each except Paragon, and while my main is my warrior, I have fun with the others also.

Quaker · Oct 23, 2010, 02:31 PM // 14:31

The best way to do a Spirit Spammer is with a Rit primary. As Star_Jewel pointed out, the spirits will do more damage and be sturdier, plus you will have skill slots available for things like Painful Bond and Pain Inverter. Those slots may be taken up by Spiritleech Aura and Armor of Unfeeling, etc., in a Rit secondary build.

Spirit Spam + Painful Bond = Lots of damage numbers.

Oct 23, 2010, 03:57 AM // 03:57	#1
Backfat Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Oct 2010	Should I drop ele for ritualist? Sorry guys for another one of my noobish threads but I looked and can't figure this answer out. I'm new to the game and don't really know much about it yet. I watched a few videos of the ritualist spirit spammer build and like it alot. More than what I do now on my ele anyway. I was wondering if I would have to reroll to make the most out of that build, or could I accomplish everything with a ritualist as a secondary? http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:Rt/any_Spirit_Spammer

Oct 23, 2010, 04:25 AM // 04:25	#2
gremlin Furnace Stoker Join Date: Oct 2006 Guild: GWAR Profession: Me/Mo	The Spirit spam build is a pretty easy way to play the pve part of the game some say too easy. Up to you if you want to drop the Ele and take the Rit but be careful about doing so for one build. Some time in the future they may well alter some of the spirits and reduce its effectiveness. Signet of Spirits seems to be the skill most in danger as you get 3 spirits for no energy cost. If you like other things about the rit and it suits you style of play go for it. Ele has a lot going for it with its great attacking and defensive skills and large energy pool. If you just want to spirit spam then yes you can take rit as a secondary class and run a very effective spirit spam build that way. In any case you have more than one character slot so you can always run both. Last edited by gremlin; Oct 23, 2010 at 04:27 AM // 04:27..

Oct 23, 2010, 02:31 PM // 14:31	#10
Quaker Hell's Protector Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Canada Guild: Brothers Disgruntled	My 2 cents. The best way to do a Spirit Spammer is with a Rit primary. As Star_Jewel pointed out, the spirits will do more damage and be sturdier, plus you will have skill slots available for things like Painful Bond and Pain Inverter. Those slots may be taken up by Spiritleech Aura and Armor of Unfeeling, etc., in a Rit secondary build. Spirit Spam + Painful Bond = Lots of damage numbers.

Oct 23, 2010, 04:26 AM // 04:26	#3
Skye Marin Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2006 Guild: The Seraphim Knights [TSK] Profession: E/A	I find that an Ele is best suited for the AP PvE skill build, good for discord heroes: Glyph of Immolation Assassin's Promise "You Move Like a Dwarf!" Ebon Vanguard Assassin Support "Finish Him!" Signet of Deadly Corruption Glowing Gaze Meteor Every team can use a SoS Ritualist. It's up to you if you think the extra damage from your PvE skills outweighs the ability for all your spirits to be balled up and teleported next to you for the next mob.

Oct 23, 2010, 04:28 AM // 04:28	#4
Star_Jewel Jungle Guide Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Denizen of Tyria since Feb. 2009	Why would you want to reroll? Are you out of character slots? There's no doubt that a Rit primary will always be the better spirit-spammer, because, with runes, they can have up to 16 in a given attribute -- their spirits will be higher level and sturdier. That said, some other professions can be pretty decent spirit spammers. I run an SoS spam build on my ranger for farming purposes, I just have to carry Armor of Unfeeling and Spiritleech Aura to make up for my flimsier spirits (though I admit I may be making matters worse for myself with Spiritleech Aura due to the shocking attribute spread). I have heard of Eles running spirits, too, thanks to their high energy pool. Just be mindful of your insignias, as you won't get to use Shamans and something like Blesseds won't help you much, either, since you won't be enchanting yourself as you would with a standard ele build. There's certainly no harm in getting the skills on your Elementalist and trying it out. If it works for you, great. If you like it but get frustrated by weak spirits, you can then roll a Rit with certainty. If you find it boring (some do), you haven't really lost much.

Oct 23, 2010, 09:07 AM // 09:07	#7
Iuris Forge Runner Join Date: Nov 2006 Guild: Crazy ducks from the Forest Profession: W/	I advise against. It'll be faster to learn how to play the elementalist right. Also, you can simply make one of your heroes an SoS spammer.

Oct 23, 2010, 09:58 AM // 09:58	#8
Kojima Krytan Explorer Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Home Guild: En Caligne Veritas [DARK] Profession: R/Rt	Why re-make? Just leave your ele aside while you bring up your ritualist. Ritualists are from Factions and they level fast in that one. I was able to bring mine up to level 20 before she left tutorial land.

Oct 23, 2010, 10:40 AM // 10:40	#9
Darcy Never Too Old Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Rhode Island where there are no GW contests Guild: Order of First Profession: W/R	Just remember that gaining the skills for the rit won't be any easier than getting them for the ele. Other than that, create a rit and have fun. You might discover you like the profession better than the ele. We keep telling people that if you plan on making a profession your main character for titles, etc., then you better enjoy playing that profession. Try out all of them until you find the one that fits your play style. But that doesn't restrict you to only one profession. I have one of each except Paragon, and while my main is my warrior, I have fun with the others also.